"Cave of the Lions": "Cruel": A product makes Frank Thelen really angry

Cologne –

In the tenth episode of the current "The Cave of the Lions" season, the public had to wait until the end to see a bigger investment.

Previously, the founders showed technically sophisticated trash cans, green dog treats and an app for riding motorbike fun.

A presentation on charcoal really frightened Frank Thelen.

Prezit, the basket with the printing function

The mechanical engineer Alex Baechler has something against the trash cans. From its dissatisfaction, the Swiss developed the idea of ​​Prezit, a garbage can with a compression function. The waste is pressed onto the closed bucket – in a waste bag two to three times more waste to be filled as in a normal 35-liter bin. Baechler wants 125,000 euros and offers 25 percent of the company's shares.

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Judith Williams informs you about "Prezit".


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Also Carsten Maschmeyer, after two minutes of Baechler's explanation, understood: "The advantage is that much more in a trash bag." Bingo! The bucket pricetail that offers this advantage costs 150 euros. One of the disadvantages of the product, the Löwen immediately becomes aware: the garbage must always be pressed in the evening and only the next day can be disposed of something again. "I would venture to say that your invention has many problems," says Frank Thelen and he leans not far from the window: "It seems like a real jam".

Only Ralf Dümmel gets a positive picture of Prezit, especially when the founder Baechler still has a carbon granulate behind the corner to avoid the smell of trash. For 125,000 euros, Dümmel von Baechler finally gets 30 percent of Prezit.

Black, sustainable coal

Aaron Armah and Jakob Hemmers have developed sustainable coal. It is said that Nero is "the first and only coal in the world with organic certification from local forests". Nero already exists in over 700 stores in Germany, Austria and Luxembourg. The founders now want to develop even more sustainable products for barbecues – barbecue tongs (for 24.99 euros), spices and sauces – and the demand from investors of 100,000 euros for ten percent of the company's shares.

With images from Ghana, where Armah saw the destructive production of charcoal with his own eyes years ago, the founders scored among the investors. "I am shocked by the fact that the rain forest has been cut down for coal," says Ralf Dümmel.

"I find it brutal, cruel and bad," Frank Thelen confesses angrily. It was something that bothered him harshly. "And you saw it and then you developed a product like that, I think it's really great."

Dagmar Wöhrl said he had already visited Ghana and saw the drama with his own eyes. But he also says: "If you want to be attentive to the environment, do not buy coal".

The "lions" also criticize the wide range of products. There is a lack of attention to the core business with coal. Although investors like the appearance, none of them makes an offer.

Vegdog, the food for vegan dogs

This week, the inevitable dog product comes from Tessa Zaune-Figlar, Valerie Hansen and Lisa Walther. As a solution to animal nutrition intolerance, the three vegan women have developed vegan and non-cereal dog food in collaboration with veterinary specialists and specialized laboratories. Vegdog should also be produced only with regional and high quality ingredients (read more here). For ten percent of the company's shares, the founders want 150,000 euros from the "lion".

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Judith Williams contacts the test dog.


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Judith Williams asks: "Can you turn dogs into vegetarians?" Even before the founders are in the studio, Maschmeyer jokes: "If you make fun of her, yes." The entrepreneur also doubts after the presentation of Vegdog that Maschmeyer says that his Labrador has recently pulled a carrot through the area, but has not eaten it, says Maschmeyer Frank Thelen joins his co- lion: he has paprika for the test of his dog and carrots. "The result:" He did not eat, nothing ".

However, investors are more concerned about the offer: although turnover this year should only be 160,000 euros, the founders require only a little less. The product is very easy to reproduce, says Maschmeyer. Dümmel is of the same opinion: the big chains would soon be produced to produce their own food for vegan dogs. "The market is a shark tank," says Dümmel and is out.

Dagmar Wöhrl is not discouraged by criticism. It offers the desired money and the necessary experience, but requires 20 percent of the company's shares. "I do it because you're so good," says Wöhrl. The founders of Vegdog accept the offer and celebrate.

Calimoto, the navigation app for motorcyclists

Normal navigation systems search for the fastest or shortest route for road users. Motorcyclists have other needs, according to Luca Osten, Sebastian Dambeck and Hans-Joachim Allenfort. Want to get a great driving experience thanks to the curves. The app of the founders named Calimoto designs interesting motorcycle trails with a self-developed curve algorithm. Tours can also be scheduled through the program. A must for all motorcycle enthusiasts, say the founders of Calimoto, who already have 16 employees and 300,000 users and now want to expand in Europe and the United States and require 650,000 euros for ten percent of their business.

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Frank Thelen, Dagmar Wöhrl and Ralf Dümmel (v.l.r.) can be explained "Calimoto".


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While investors Dümmel, Wöhrl and Williams are out, because they have nothing to do with motorcycling, but have rubbed, Carsten Maschmeyer is close to the company valuation of 6.5 million euros. The fact that the founders later reveal to him that they are especially interested in the money of the "lions", to grow up with them and then reach the high score, annoys him even more: "I do not like it", says Maschmeyer. "We do not pay a rating increase by joining us." Maschmeyer is out.

Frank Thelen shows a broader understanding: "It's a strong assessment, yes, but no one I could not understand.You have an exciting market in a niche." But: "I have nothing to do with motorcycles and unfortunately I lost a friend almost for a motorcycle accident. "Thelen comes out, the founders of Calimoto leave the studio without investment.

Lazys, the comfortable ski boot

The ski boots are hard and uncomfortable and with all the love for winter sports not suitable for everyday use. Even the founders of Cologne and Soest, Marcus Maaßen and Jens Willecke, are aware of it and have developed the lazy: an accessory for ski boots, which should become the comfortable sneakers. They have a non-slip sole and can also be attached to the ski pole as skiers descend along the slope. Maaßen and Willecke want 120,000 euros to enter the market and are willing to hand over 20 percent of their company shares.

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Georg Kofler head "Lazys".


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"You're more comfortable," says Ralf Dümmel after a first test. Georg Kofler, who also made a license for ski instructors, quickly formulated his reflective verdict: "This does not help much … Friends, it's nothing, I would never put on this thing, even if I received it for free." Maschmeyer annoys the price of 49 euros for the lazys: "For a bit of plastic and a rope?" Even the business plan is immature, the founders can call numbers barely reliable. They do not receive an offer, the entrance on the market of Lazys has yet to come.

Aspira Clip, the mini-inhaler for everyday life

The Aspira clip by Vinh-Nghi Tiet and Wolfgang Kleiner should be a world novelty: a mini-inhaler for everyday life, which is introduced directly into the nose and sprays the ethereal oils while breathing. The should contribute to relaxation or expelling colds. The founders have already invested 1.3 million euros in their invention, run a production plant, have a patent for technology and medical approval. Ten percent of their company now wants to give it and raise 600,000 euros.

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Judith Williams tests the clip of Aspira


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The "Lions" try the three varieties "Med", "Fresh" and "Relax" with different aromas, pinch their nostrils and are very fond of them. "It's not unpleasant at all," says Dümmel. The wearing time of three weeks, the price of just under nine euros and the placement in the branches of the drugstore DM means that investors sit down and take note. Frank Thelen, however, is the risk of a too large investment, even Judith Williams is out because it does not have the steam effect of inhaling. Even Dagmar Wöhrl does not make offers, but there remain two "lions".

Dümmel and Maschmeyer quickly consult and agree: "If you have any ideas on how to make a profit, then we are." And Ralf Dümmel does not want to hide his enthusiasm: "I think the argument is incredible But the evaluation of six million euros is too high for him and Maschmeyer, instead of ten, the duo expects 30% for 600,000 euros .

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Ralf Dümmel (left) and Carsten Maschmeyer are discussed.


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The expression of the founders on their faces makes it easy to see what Vinh-Nghi Tiet says shortly after in the consultation: "I would not do it." His business partner Wolfgang Kleiner proposes a 15 percent contract, while Maschmeyer and Dümmel mutually assure each other: "30 or not." And indeed, the two manage to convince the founders of Aspira-Clip: "We sell seven figures in the first week". They invested another 400,000 euros in the current business, getting 25 percent. and now they sell flavored nose clasps. The founder Tiet: "This will be a great story".